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my name is grant Cameron

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from Winnipeg Manitoba Canada a

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researcher who's been at this since 1975

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so I've been at 43 years had an

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experience which led me into the field

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really didn't have any interest in the

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field and it's gone from sort of my

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interest has gone from one subject to

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another 75 because at that time I had a

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bunch of sightings people in a town had

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a bunch of sightings nobody who

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published a book so at that point always

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really interested in is who knew what

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was going on somebody had to know what

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this was that I had seen

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so I started this chase that I always

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talked about I went to the Kane

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government first and I chased a former

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president of Penn State University at 14

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honorary Doctorate degrees chairman of

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the board of the Institute for Defense

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analysis top military think-tank of the

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country president Penn State University

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for 16 years

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chased him around for eight years he

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seemed it was going on but he didn't

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really want to talk Deniz chased the

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President of the United States and then

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I was while I was chasing the head

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people at the CIA intelligence people

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who I believed knew it was going on I

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had a download experience which changed

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everything for me it sort of moved me

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from the nuts and bolts aspect of the

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UFO phenomena to the idea that a lot of

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this is consciousness a lot of this is

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messaging it's this kind of stuff and it

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was during that period of time when I

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had this sort of download experience

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that I realized that the experiencers

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that for example in in the latest round

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of disclosure stuff you see they leaked

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some videos through the New York Times

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Washington Post political and I suddenly

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realize that you really can't tell

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anything by a video you can watch the

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videos for 70 years every day all its

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gonna tell you is it's pretty strange

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and we didn't probably didn't build it

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but it doesn't tell you who's flying it

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were there from why they're here what's

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the message and I started to deal with

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experiences and I spent I spent probably

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the last since 2012 so last six years

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basically dealing with experiences

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people who have had

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experiences to find out did you get a

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message to tell you what's going on

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stuff like that and I realized that the

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government was doing the same thing but

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from time to time and what I'm gonna

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lecture here at Eureka Springs on is

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what most people are still fascinated

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with the whole government disclosure

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when are they gonna disclose what and I

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got dragged into this story because I

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was dealing with these high-level

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government people and I got to know some

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of these people interact with some of

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these people and so in the last year if

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people have been following there's a

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story that has arisen about a rock star

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but I have Tom DeLonge and he'd sold 30

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million albums every time he tweets

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something he gets 15 thousand retweets

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major figure in in Los Angeles and he

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got into the UFO phenomena and what he

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did was he got inside the government he

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got a bunch of people high-level people

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inside the government to talk to him and

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to start to give him material so I

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followed this story I had people inside

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the story who were feeding me what was

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going on and some of them were

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experiences because that's part of the

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deal is that people don't realize that a

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lot of these people who are doing this

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disclosure thing this recently for

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example Jim Jim semi van who was a 25

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year veteran of the CIA ran covert ops

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for the CIA for two years is involved in

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this he's basically the director of this

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to the Stars Academy that's behind this

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recent disclosure story he's an

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experienced here he had the beings in

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his room in the 1990s early 1990s with

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his wife and so he's a guy it's not evil

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government guy who's trying to cover up

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it's Jim sent me on tried to figure out

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what happened to me and so I got dragged

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into this realized that a lot of these

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people are experiences wrote a book

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called managing magic the government's

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UFO disclosure plan and sort of the

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basis of that my whole theory which some

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people have challenged some people have

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gone along with is that the government

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needs to get it out there's people

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inside the government not everybody but

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a small group of people inside the

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government who are determined that the

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American people have to know this story

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you have to get it out so this is a plan

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where what they do is they'll put

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material into the UFO community into the

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public and then at the same time they'll

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put in false information to stop it from

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going viral so you put it out then you

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put disinformation around it and what

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happens is the story bounces around

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there's two different versions nobody

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knows what to believe and yet the ID

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gets out so some of the ideas that they

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might leak are the idea that there was a

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live alien that was the that it was a

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guest of the US government or that area

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51 that we've got crafts at area 51 or

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the idea that there's a group of very

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high-level people 12 people who run the

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whole program so I wrote managing magic

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which was my my sort of synopsis of this

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whole thing and what I said they've done

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this for 70 years they've leaked stuff

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to people like Steven Spielberg to other

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various documentary people leak these

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stories and yet to sort of cover up the

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story at the same time to control this

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gradual release so when people are

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looking at this latest story about to

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the Stars Academy with Tom DeLonge this

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Rockstar Airy thinks well they've

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suddenly decided to release this thing

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well no they've been doing it all along

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they've been doing it every year so

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managing magic I went through every year

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I went year after year after year I said

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okay 56 is what they did 60 62 and I

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would identify these things that people

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really didn't realize have been going on

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all the time and so that's why I'm gonna

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be lecturing on here is the latest

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stories the latest videos what's

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happening how this group was set up and

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how the Washington Post got involved in

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New York Times what they're actually

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trying to do and I've got a second book

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coming out that that I'm working on

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right now which will be the the latest

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up to say and that's what I'll do and

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I'll also get into one story that still

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nobody knows because it's just happening

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as we speak and that is that the guy I

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chased that the CIA's name is dr. Ron

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Pandolfi and they have a desk at the

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we're it's called a weird desk at the

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CIA

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and people don't realize that when it

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comes to UFOs in the the Central

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Intelligence Agency it's not just UFOs

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they call it phenomenology so it's not

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just UFOs it's remote-viewing psychic

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phenomena telepathy ghosts all what they

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call the weird stuff and what it

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basically says is there is a part of

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reality that we've missed that's beyond

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the physical world and that all this

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stuff is linked together so we always

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parse it we say okay you're a Chandler

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it's all the same thing but they're just

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disassociating they're coming into

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contact with with this higher level of

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consciousness and so one of the stories

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that interested me was because I'd moved

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away after my consciousness experience I

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had moved away from the idea that this

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is nuts and bolts and I've sure went to

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the jack Valley idea that I'd be very

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surprised if this turns out to just be

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extraterrestrials visiting it's much

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more complex than that has this

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consciousness aspects one of the stories

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that I've been chasing for a couple

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years was that this Ron Pandolfi guy was

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leaking material through a guy I know

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Dan Smith and the way the way this

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operates is is always plausible

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deniability the president doesn't know

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it's like he's an idiot he doesn't know

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it's possible deniability you don't want

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people asking questions to the president

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because he's the guy writing the

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cover-up and so what Ron Pandolfi had

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done was he put his material through a

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guy by the name of Dan Smith he's got

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two masters degrees in physics

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his father was a financial expert with

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the Eisenhower administration very

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wealthy guy and he's an eschatology he

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believes in the end of the world he's

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very religious and he's been blogging

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for 27 years material that dr. Ron

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Pandolfi has been feeding him about

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what's going on but the thing is nobody

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really believes it because he's talking

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about the end of the world he's mixing

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philosophy in it and stuff like that

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never he goes and Dan Smith told us in

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advance but he has no he's talking about

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you know and that's the way they wanted

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to have this plasma my ability so I

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could about a couple days ago this idea

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of the portal came up again and the idea

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because if there's a portal and this is

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the story they've been running around

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Ron Pandolfi and the CIA have been

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putting out this impression that they

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have there's portal technology they

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we've actually our cert on the verge of

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understanding how this works that we can

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actually build this stuff so I was

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interested because if portals exist then

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the nuts and bolts idea of the universe

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isn't a lot of trouble this indicates

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what I got in my download experience is

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that it's much more complex than nuts

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and bolts it's got to do with the

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consciousness it's got do it quantum

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physics it's got to do with the nature

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reality and so you look at it is the

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world made out of little nuts and bolts

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or is it made out of consciousness does

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matter cause consciousness or this

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consciousness cause matter and what I'm

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stating is that consciousness creates

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matter you do not get matter until you

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have consciousness you have to have an

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observer to break down the quantum wave

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which produces matter so it's this sort

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of thing so I was very interested in the

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portal technology because if this

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existed where you can actually just sort

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of walk through this thing and be in

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another world instantaneously or another

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dimension it shows that the world is a

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lot less physical than people think it

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is so I've been chasing this story and

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it really was it was sort of like he

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doesn't rhymes and riddles it's all

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plausible deniability so it wasn't like

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here's the portal here's where you go

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this kind of stuff like Santa Claus

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we're gonna give you the story it's

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always very indirect the story had

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almost faded away until about a week and

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a half ago when suddenly I was told that

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the stories back on again and the story

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center our centers around a guy by the

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name of Jill firmage and Joe firmage ran

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a three billion dollar computer company

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in the 1990s CEO very very powerful guy

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had an experience where a being appeared

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in his room in the middle of night and

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he started talking about space travel

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and the being said well why do you want

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be able to go to space and he said

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because I'm willing to die for it and at

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that point that he got some sort of

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download he got some sort of

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information and he basically quits his

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company he quits a CEO has a lot of

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money he starts putting money into

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technology to develop portal technology

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to be able to bypass into another world

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this sort of thing and there was always

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a story that he had it and no he didn't

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have it and I was trying to track this

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down so about two weeks ago it was

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mentioned to me that the stories back on

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and that he's got this and on Joel

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furnitures website you can actually see

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this technology has about on his YouTube

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site he has maybe seven videos and one

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of them talks about the being coming in

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the room he describes in fair detail he

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says is sinsemilla night but the other

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thing he shows is a instrument and what

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it looks like is a cage they call it the

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bouncing box but it's a cage and it has

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these spinning devices inside one

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spinning in one direction one spin and

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go faster and faster and faster and

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suddenly this box starts to bounce and

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it starts to almost like levitate off

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the ground so there's a dispute as to is

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this levitation is this anti-gravity

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gravity control or is this a portal so

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people are telling me no no he's just

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got a gravitational device this is not a

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portal and I was told that he was

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involved and a guy by the name of Kevin

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Albert was involved and Kevin Albert was

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working for Ron Pandolfi and as of

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civilian he's apparently has you know

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intelligence background from Mossad and

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we're in California and he was involved

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and then the third name that was

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mentioned to me a couple weeks ago was a

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guy named Dan Merritt who was a

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Republican congressman for the state of

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Utah into the nineteen I think he left

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in the 1980s late 1980s and so that's

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where the lead and then about Wednesday

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of this week a couple days ago I started

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getting phone calls from Dan Smith

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you're not answering your phone I need

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to talk to you there's been developments

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and at the lake which is Salt Lake City

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that's where Joe firmage lives and he

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said to me there's been developments I

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need to talk to you because they sort of

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see me

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a spokesman a lot of the groups like

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whether it's CIA people or whether it's

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[Music]

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to the stars or whether it's there's a

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guy out of Stanford really doing these

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experiments with with experiencers where

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they basically say that I'm pretty well

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accurate on what I'm saying

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so they I'm seen as sort of a spokesman

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people are trying to put stuff through

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me so Dan was trying to get this out you

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need to know and he actually started

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using the word managing magic and the

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reason I used the term was it's not UFOs

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it's magic it's all the different

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phenomenons and that they're managing

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the stories are trying to manage this

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very bizarre aspect to the to reality so

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he said you're answering your phone then

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he went to a blog site where they

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blogged this stuff and you really can't

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tell because it's all this philosophy

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stuff and unless you know where to read

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or whatever and it appeared that they

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had on Tuesday night Tuesday evening

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that they had put this instrument that

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perfected this thing and his Dan Merritt

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guy the the former Congress congressman

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had put in four million dollars into

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this invention and they spent apparently

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ninety million dollars on this on this

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project over the years so they had

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formed a new company that's I was told

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and that Alber was the CEO the chairman

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of the company was a Stan Merritt this

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former congressman and then joel fuhrman

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and that they had perfected the device

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so that the dating on this project was

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the first mention of the portal was in

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about 2016 beginning of the year when

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they start talking about this and we're

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now in April and this is when this story

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seems to have completely developed April

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of 2018

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and so early this month or maybe in late

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March was the first time I heard that

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they had they had sort of perfected this

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thing that something was happening that

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they're gonna run this experiment so it

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would be maybe around

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April the six that they're supposed to

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run a test they're supposed to run a

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test and I was told that that Ron and

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Ally hug Pandolfi who's his wife were

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going to go to Colorado so they would be

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there right now it's just be April of

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13th that they were going to run and

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there's people coming from around the

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world to look at this experiment but

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what happened on Tuesday night is that

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they ran this experiment they ran this

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this this bouncing box thing and I guess

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some sort of portal thing opened up and

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there was a beam came out of the portal

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and they were filming this whole thing

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and there was a telepathic message

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between Kevin Albert and this being and

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Ron Pandolfi himself posted on this

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website in 80 posts under a name called

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foot men and he talks in rhymes and

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riddles but he's basically talking about

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this this incident with the message with

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the being and stuff like that and so

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what they had said in the postings was

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we don't want to have another nimitz

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fiasco sort of indicating that when Tom

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DeLonge released the nimitz video with

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the New York Times article in December

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of 2017 that it didn't go anywhere like

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people said oh it's a hoax they've had

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it before and stuff like that so they

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said this may with we don't want to get

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into that same thing where people can

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say it's a hoax so it's at this point

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I've learned about it Wednesday and I've

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come to Eureka Springs it's now Friday

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and I've got an associate who was in

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Washington lives in Washington who works

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for a law firm there who's coming here

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and we're gonna try to make the phone

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calls and I'm gonna see whether on

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Sunday I can get this video I very much

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doubt I'll be able to get the video but

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they have a video or at least get the

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complete story of what actually happened

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on Tuesday night so it gives you an

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indication if this is true and I think

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there is some truth to the story that

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the idea of a physical world is in

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trouble and

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that we do have some sort of portal

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technology we have something where we

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understand this interdimensional thing

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and this would be the idea of where

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these beings and I always call it the

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intelligence behind a phenomena that

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they aren't really flying through space

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with giant spacecrafts they're popping

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from one point in space to another point

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in space and they're coming through

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these gateways these portals these

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whatever you want to call them that

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that's how they get here so that's

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basically what my presentation is going

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to be and it's what people want I'm more

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interested still in the consciousness

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thing I've just released my book on on

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music the connection between rock

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musicians and paranormal phenomena and

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UFOs detailing how many major musicians

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I believe our experiences have actually

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you know been abductees they they've

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downloaded songs they do lyrics for for

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UFO stuff like that and that great

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influence but what I'll be doing here is

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this basically this disclosure thing

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which is everybody's is waiting for and

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what I say is they're releasing stuff

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yes in drips and drabs and this will

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continue probably for the next seven

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years I've heard this program will take

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seven years for them to run through and

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what they are doing is people want

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disclosure they want the whole answer

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tell us what's going on give us all the

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details whatever and what they have done

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is in December 16 2017

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they basically released the first two

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videos and what they've done is what I

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say is confirmation and the guy who

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controls all the material is a guy named

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Bob Bigelow he's big billionaire in Las

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Vegas he held the government contract

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that did the investigation on the UFOs

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he has all the film the medals he has

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everything and he had stated in 2013 and

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an interview already that what we need

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is confirmation not disclosure and what

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confirmation is is what they did in

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December you release the story you

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release you have these high-level

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government officials that come forward

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they say we're high get level government

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officials and the UFO story is for real

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and you stop right there you don't say

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who it is you don't say where they're

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from you don't talk about alien cattle

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mutilations alien abductions you just

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say yes we have a phenomena UFO

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phenomena it's for real and we're trying

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to figure out what's going on

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so that's confirmation and then once

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everybody gets used to it then you go to

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where they're coming from that sort of

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stuff and so what they're trying to do I

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believe is they're trying to shift the

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general public they don't care about the

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UFO community they don't care what we

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think because we'll ask all sorts of

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hard questions nobody's gonna believe me

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anyway

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but the general public the person who's

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on the street who's like a swing voter

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in an election really doesn't know

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really doesn't care sees the video and

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goes oh the government's got a program

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and look at they released this video and

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you swing the average person to shift

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consciousness inside the American public

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that's what they're doing absolutely

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guarantee people that's that's what

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they're doing is shifting consciousness

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and down the road they will get into

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they do know they have a lot of answers

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but those answers don't come for a

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number of years in December 16 2016

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there was two videos released through

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the New York Times through the

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Washington Post the political and the

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important part of it is that all three

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news agencies went on the same day so

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you if you talk to people inside they'll

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say no it was just good reporting by the

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New York Times or it was just an

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investigation this guy just retired and

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he came out and he decided that UFOs

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have to be investigated the fact that

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three news agencies all went on the same

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day on a story that took them a couple

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of months to do proves that this was

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coordinated by the government they

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coordinated all three newspapers to go

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at the same time because these

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newspapers never did you have UFO

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stories that were very there were major

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media outlets who didn't never touched

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UFO stories so to them all to go and

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they released these videos which were

545
00:22:28,539 --> 00:22:24,259
significant in that as soon as it

546
00:22:30,369 --> 00:22:28,549
happened I went to the reporter who

547
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:30,379
asked Hillary Clinton the first question

548
00:22:37,269 --> 00:22:34,240
in this would be

549
00:22:39,879 --> 00:22:37,279
2015 December of 2015 he asked Hillary

550
00:22:41,740 --> 00:22:39,889
Clinton what do you think about UFOs she

551
00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:41,750
said I think I think we need the answers

552
00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:43,370
I think we need to disclose something

553
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:46,940
she started talking about UFOs so when

554
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:49,250
these videos were released and both the

555
00:22:53,529 --> 00:22:50,960
Washington Post and New York Times were

556
00:22:55,269 --> 00:22:53,539
shown these videos before which

557
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:55,279
indicates that this is a setup story

558
00:22:58,810 --> 00:22:56,690
they were shown the videos that are

559
00:23:01,600 --> 00:22:58,820
shown documents they were sold the story

560
00:23:03,879 --> 00:23:01,610
by intelligence officials when you need

561
00:23:06,999 --> 00:23:03,889
to go with this story so the videos came

562
00:23:08,860 --> 00:23:07,009
out and everybody was sort of in awe of

563
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:08,870
these videos because what they show is

564
00:23:13,899 --> 00:23:11,090
the one is from the Nimitz it was an

565
00:23:16,570 --> 00:23:13,909
incident happened in November of 2004

566
00:23:19,919 --> 00:23:16,580
with the Nimitz carrier group off of San

567
00:23:21,820 --> 00:23:19,929
Diego and they have this big huge

568
00:23:23,860 --> 00:23:21,830
aircraft carrier

569
00:23:27,129 --> 00:23:23,870
they have a destroyer they have an

570
00:23:29,169 --> 00:23:27,139
aerial plane that's got radar on it and

571
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:29,179
all these ships so it's not just one

572
00:23:33,879 --> 00:23:30,799
ship there's this whole carrier group

573
00:23:36,220 --> 00:23:33,889
jet fighters and stuff like that and for

574
00:23:37,539 --> 00:23:36,230
a couple of couple of days or a couple

575
00:23:39,850 --> 00:23:37,549
of weeks that were picking up these

576
00:23:41,769 --> 00:23:39,860
objects that were there all the time and

577
00:23:43,210 --> 00:23:41,779
they were they would go up to 80,000

578
00:23:45,009 --> 00:23:43,220
feet and it would drop down to 50 feet

579
00:23:46,570 --> 00:23:45,019
above the ocean they would create this

580
00:23:48,129 --> 00:23:46,580
sort of a stir inside the ocean look

581
00:23:50,919 --> 00:23:48,139
like a plane was sinking and stuff like

582
00:23:54,659 --> 00:23:50,929
that and so at one point they send out

583
00:23:57,399 --> 00:23:54,669
two jet fighters to investigate this and

584
00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:57,409
they run out of fuel they can't do it

585
00:24:00,940 --> 00:23:59,090
anymore so they pull them back then they

586
00:24:02,499 --> 00:24:00,950
send out these two jet fighters from the

587
00:24:05,619 --> 00:24:02,509
coast from an Air Force Base in

588
00:24:07,330 --> 00:24:05,629
California to investigate this it's at

589
00:24:10,330 --> 00:24:07,340
that point they run into this object and

590
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:10,340
so these two guys are watching this

591
00:24:15,490 --> 00:24:13,450
object and the thing turns towards them

592
00:24:16,990 --> 00:24:15,500
according to one of the people involved

593
00:24:18,369 --> 00:24:17,000
there was a shoot down order given that

594
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:18,379
they were to shoot this thing down and

595
00:24:21,789 --> 00:24:20,240
the one tries to get in behind the

596
00:24:25,659 --> 00:24:21,799
object and meanwhile they're filming

597
00:24:26,889 --> 00:24:25,669
this with with cameras and so what the

598
00:24:29,379 --> 00:24:26,899
New York Times did in the Washington

599
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:29,389
Post is they released these videos of

600
00:24:35,049 --> 00:24:32,210
sort of like gun camera footage of the

601
00:24:36,850 --> 00:24:35,059
this object and then they released the

602
00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:36,860
second one but when they released that

603
00:24:39,879 --> 00:24:38,120
they really didn't say when it was

604
00:24:42,220 --> 00:24:39,889
turned out the second video they

605
00:24:46,450 --> 00:24:42,230
released was not from the same incident

606
00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:46,460
it was from 2015 off of Florida and this

607
00:24:49,330 --> 00:24:47,360
one had to

608
00:24:50,890 --> 00:24:49,340
violets talking and these two pilots are

609
00:24:52,210 --> 00:24:50,900
saying did you see that there's a whole

610
00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:52,220
fleet of them and stuff like this

611
00:24:56,020 --> 00:24:54,049
they're talking on the camera so these

612
00:24:59,289 --> 00:24:56,030
videos came out and they were very

613
00:25:00,940 --> 00:24:59,299
dramatic and it shifted the Washington

614
00:25:03,130 --> 00:25:00,950
Post New York Times and all the news

615
00:25:05,950 --> 00:25:03,140
media whether it was Fox or where there

616
00:25:09,220 --> 00:25:05,960
was CNN or any of these other major news

617
00:25:12,610 --> 00:25:09,230
agencies basically what they would say

618
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:12,620
is oh the Department of Defense has

619
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:15,250
released the you of a UFO video

620
00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:18,410
meanwhile in the UFO community I and a

621
00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:20,030
number of other people are trying to

622
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:22,190
find out we're trying to get

623
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:25,250
documentation so when this thing broke I

624
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:26,480
had this guy who would ask Hillary

625
00:25:30,430 --> 00:25:28,490
Clinton the question he was a reporter

626
00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:30,440
from a small newspaper in New Hampshire

627
00:25:36,430 --> 00:25:33,200
I said Daymond steer was named as a

628
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:36,440
Damon can you follow an FOI let's get

629
00:25:40,330 --> 00:25:38,330
the material let's get these films let's

630
00:25:42,909 --> 00:25:40,340
get a documentation that this actually

631
00:25:45,220 --> 00:25:42,919
happened he phoned before he filed the

632
00:25:48,850 --> 00:25:45,230
FOI he phones the Defense Department and

633
00:25:51,220 --> 00:25:48,860
they say sorry sir we did not release

634
00:25:52,539 --> 00:25:51,230
any video and yet the video is in New

635
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:52,549
York Times that's in the Washington Post

636
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:55,210
and he said well I want to file an foi a

637
00:25:59,980 --> 00:25:57,650
who do I follow to do I follow to the

638
00:26:02,799 --> 00:25:59,990
Defense Department Defense Intelligence

639
00:26:05,169 --> 00:26:02,809
Agency who do I file it said sorry sir I

640
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:05,179
can't help you we did not all I can tell

641
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:06,770
you sir we did not release any video

642
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:10,610
that were talking four months later is

643
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:13,510
the same situation they still will say

644
00:26:18,940 --> 00:26:16,640
we didn't release any video yet the

645
00:26:21,159 --> 00:26:18,950
significant thing is that the guy who

646
00:26:23,770 --> 00:26:21,169
wrote the story for New York Times one

647
00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:23,780
of the guys is Ralph Blumenthal Ralph

648
00:26:27,820 --> 00:26:26,150
Blumenthal he won a Pulitzer Prize the

649
00:26:30,460 --> 00:26:27,830
guy who did in the Washington Post

650
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:30,470
article had won two Pulitzer Prizes

651
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:33,290
these are national security reporters

652
00:26:37,570 --> 00:26:35,210
who had many years with with top

653
00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:37,580
newspapers would not have gone with that

654
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:40,070
story unless they had at least two

655
00:26:45,549 --> 00:26:42,410
confirmations from inside the Pentagon

656
00:26:48,010 --> 00:26:45,559
that these videos are for real if they

657
00:26:49,870 --> 00:26:48,020
had what we had which it was the guy

658
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:49,880
saying we didn't release those videos

659
00:26:53,289 --> 00:26:51,290
they never would have gone with the

660
00:26:55,390 --> 00:26:53,299
story so they had a confirmation so this

661
00:26:58,799 --> 00:26:55,400
is this shows you how they play this

662
00:27:00,930 --> 00:26:58,809
game they put the videos out and

663
00:27:03,419 --> 00:27:00,940
everybody believed they had released

664
00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:03,429
when they had released them and they

665
00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:06,460
released them not to the defense guy who

666
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:08,679
was that came out Lou Elizondo was his

667
00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:10,570
name Lou Alessandro said I didn't

668
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:12,609
release the videos they released them to

669
00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:15,369
the stars so it's all a big mix-up and

670
00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:18,340
people are saying you know where are the

671
00:27:24,019 --> 00:27:19,929
documents and we filed four documents

672
00:27:27,419 --> 00:27:24,029
there's been I think 1500 foi ace filed

673
00:27:29,099 --> 00:27:27,429
tooth up to 2000 fos filed because this

674
00:27:30,930 --> 00:27:29,109
is a major story all sorts of people

675
00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:30,940
trying to get the documentation of the

676
00:27:35,249 --> 00:27:33,279
videos and stuff and everybody's got

677
00:27:38,999 --> 00:27:35,259
nothing people are saying the government

678
00:27:40,109 --> 00:27:39,009
is saying we don't have any records so

679
00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:40,119
they're not confirming there was an

680
00:27:43,109 --> 00:27:41,470
investigation they're not confirming

681
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,119
their videos they're not confirming

682
00:27:47,219 --> 00:27:44,799
anything they're basically saying nah

683
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:47,229
didn't happen and that's that's this

684
00:27:51,299 --> 00:27:49,330
sort of mix-up thing where I say they

685
00:27:52,879 --> 00:27:51,309
release the information then they

686
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:52,889
released the counter counterintelligence

687
00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:55,690
operation and it bounces around so

688
00:27:59,820 --> 00:27:57,820
people look at the video and a lot of

689
00:28:01,589 --> 00:27:59,830
the public will know oh yeah I saw the

690
00:28:03,749 --> 00:28:01,599
video for the New York Times it's been

691
00:28:05,369 --> 00:28:03,759
all over all the major news media and

692
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:05,379
the news media are all making the same

693
00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:07,450
mistake is they're just repeating it

694
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:09,070
they're saying the Defense Department

695
00:28:12,269 --> 00:28:10,809
released another video today because

696
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:12,279
there was a third video that was

697
00:28:18,810 --> 00:28:15,039
released in March early March of 2018

698
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:18,820
and in that video it was released

699
00:28:23,820 --> 00:28:21,330
through the Washington Post and again

700
00:28:28,739 --> 00:28:23,830
everybody repeated it it was picked up

701
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:28,749
by Fox by BBC and by CNN or Elsa and it

702
00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:30,369
also the same thing oh the Defense

703
00:28:34,229 --> 00:28:32,169
Department released another UFO video

704
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:34,239
when you go to Defense Department no we

705
00:28:37,289 --> 00:28:35,769
didn't release any video and that's how

706
00:28:39,899 --> 00:28:37,299
they do it so it's plausible deniability

707
00:28:42,060 --> 00:28:39,909
and it's letting the story get out there

708
00:28:44,009 --> 00:28:42,070
and bounce around and for what I'm told

709
00:28:46,259 --> 00:28:44,019
this is going to go on for seven years

710
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:46,269
they're going to drop these videos what

711
00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:48,369
I'm told is they have two dozen videos

712
00:28:55,710 --> 00:28:53,470
and then there was one that NASA was

713
00:28:58,139 --> 00:28:55,720
going to release as well two videos that

714
00:29:01,859 --> 00:28:58,149
they they contributed so we could have

715
00:29:03,419 --> 00:29:01,869
another 23 videos coming and the other

716
00:29:07,619 --> 00:29:03,429
thing they talked about was the fact

717
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:07,629
that they had metal that they had this

718
00:29:12,629 --> 00:29:10,089
metal that if you listen to Linda Howe

719
00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:12,639
she'll say it's thirty six layers 36 to

720
00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:14,200
38 layers

721
00:29:19,290 --> 00:29:17,350
pick with with one to four microns thick

722
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:19,300
about a quarter of an inch with all

723
00:29:23,610 --> 00:29:21,370
these layers and that even today we

724
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:23,620
cannot reproduce this material it's so

725
00:29:28,740 --> 00:29:26,490
thin and it's so pure so it's made of

726
00:29:32,130 --> 00:29:28,750
magnesium and these different elements

727
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:32,140
that are so pure the aluminum is like

728
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:35,610
99.9 percent like pure pure aluminum and

729
00:29:39,660 --> 00:29:38,110
so this metal stuff they have that

730
00:29:41,790 --> 00:29:39,670
they're going to be talking about and

731
00:29:43,290 --> 00:29:41,800
then there's another program that I'm

732
00:29:45,270 --> 00:29:43,300
not going to talk about here I'll just

733
00:29:47,310 --> 00:29:45,280
briefly mention it which to me is the

734
00:29:50,250 --> 00:29:47,320
most important part so the de'longhi

735
00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:50,260
operation is is was to set up where

736
00:29:54,140 --> 00:29:52,630
these intelligence guys came in they

737
00:29:56,420 --> 00:29:54,150
were able to operate through his company

738
00:30:01,770 --> 00:29:56,430
put all this material out so they have

739
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:01,780
20 say 20 26 videos they have 38 papers

740
00:30:05,550 --> 00:30:03,250
that were produced some of them are up

741
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:05,560
to 400 90 pages but I think a lot of

742
00:30:10,110 --> 00:30:07,810
those are theoretical papers on space

743
00:30:16,350 --> 00:30:10,120
propulsion stuff like that then you have

744
00:30:17,970 --> 00:30:16,360
the oh the the the metals and then the

745
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:17,980
fourth one I say is the most important

746
00:30:25,020 --> 00:30:21,970
one they are doing work with experiences

747
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:25,030
so what the the people that are running

748
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:27,310
it one guy is doc his name is doctor kit

749
00:30:34,290 --> 00:30:30,850
Green who was formerly at Ron Pandolfi

750
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:34,300
struck from 69 to 83 he ran the weird

751
00:30:38,910 --> 00:30:36,640
desk at the CIA all the paranormal stuff

752
00:30:43,290 --> 00:30:38,920
at the CIA he is one of the guys he's

753
00:30:46,860 --> 00:30:43,300
he's a physiologist so he's interested

754
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:46,870
in brain scans mris so what they have

755
00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:48,310
done is they've taken all people who

756
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:50,470
have been injured by UFOs this is a lot

757
00:30:57,030 --> 00:30:53,890
of black ops people some experiencers in

758
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:57,040
from the general public and the taking

759
00:31:02,190 --> 00:30:58,690
highly psychic people like uri geller

760
00:31:05,130 --> 00:31:02,200
joe mcmoneagle they have english wands

761
00:31:07,950 --> 00:31:05,140
DNA people like that and what they have

762
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:07,960
discovered according to the rumors and

763
00:31:12,330 --> 00:31:09,910
they haven't put out any peer-reviewed

764
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:12,340
papers that we can actually they detail

765
00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:15,010
what it is but what I hear is that they

766
00:31:20,850 --> 00:31:18,070
have determined that every every

767
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:20,860
experiencer and every highly psychic

768
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:24,850
person has a DNA marker that they can

769
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:26,450
actually determine there's a marker

770
00:31:31,330 --> 00:31:29,930
DNA what they say is that your DNA will

771
00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:31,340
record everything else happened to you

772
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:33,260
so if you've had a cold if you've had

773
00:31:38,820 --> 00:31:35,360
the flu it would leave a marker on your

774
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:38,830
DNA and they can actually detail this

775
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:41,570
these markers so there's a marker in

776
00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:43,370
every one of these people it's the same

777
00:31:48,220 --> 00:31:45,830
and the other thing they have is this a

778
00:31:50,650 --> 00:31:48,230
particular brain pattern and what they

779
00:31:54,850 --> 00:31:50,660
call it is the antenna it's an antenna

780
00:31:57,790 --> 00:31:54,860
brain pattern which is where I was going

781
00:31:58,990 --> 00:31:57,800
with consciousness which says that when

782
00:32:02,470 --> 00:31:59,000
you have an experience or you have

783
00:32:04,570 --> 00:32:02,480
somebody who is able to tap in to make

784
00:32:07,330 --> 00:32:04,580
contact with whatever this intelligence

785
00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:07,340
is that we're dealing with and so we

786
00:32:11,410 --> 00:32:08,870
have these brain patterns whether it's a

787
00:32:16,420 --> 00:32:11,420
medium whether it's a psychic whether

788
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:16,430
it's an adduct E or uri geller they have

789
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:19,090
this ability to tap into the field and

790
00:32:24,130 --> 00:32:21,770
that's what distinguishes them so they

791
00:32:26,740 --> 00:32:24,140
this is to be a significant which means

792
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:26,750
that if you've had experiences you'll go

793
00:32:30,790 --> 00:32:28,490
tell your friends well I had this

794
00:32:33,010 --> 00:32:30,800
experience whatever and they go it's

795
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:33,020
just a story you just imagined it it was

796
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:36,170
a dream whatever and as Gary Nolan who's

797
00:32:39,940 --> 00:32:37,490
one of these from Stanford University

798
00:32:41,530 --> 00:32:39,950
has a big genetics lab at Stanford

799
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:41,540
years.he he's one of the three people on

800
00:32:46,540 --> 00:32:43,730
this program with the experiences he

801
00:32:49,150 --> 00:32:46,550
says genetics doesn't lie so if you say

802
00:32:50,290 --> 00:32:49,160
I'm an experiencer when this is all said

803
00:32:51,790 --> 00:32:50,300
and done and they can get these

804
00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:51,800
peer-reviewed papers they can actually

805
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:55,550
take your DNA and they can say yeah he

806
00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:57,530
said he's an experiencer he has that he

807
00:33:02,170 --> 00:32:59,600
has the marker it's something you can

808
00:33:04,570 --> 00:33:02,180
actually quantify you can measure and

809
00:33:07,510 --> 00:33:04,580
you can actually say to the skeptical

810
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:07,520
community scientific community who says

811
00:33:10,270 --> 00:33:09,170
no these people are just making this

812
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:10,280
stuff up it's all garbage

813
00:33:16,150 --> 00:33:12,890
it's not true they can actually say no

814
00:33:18,730 --> 00:33:16,160
this is quantitative everybody has it

815
00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:18,740
it's duplicatable and it'll move us into

816
00:33:24,580 --> 00:33:21,470
a whole new realm where experiencers are

817
00:33:27,010 --> 00:33:24,590
taken much more serious and I've even

818
00:33:28,690 --> 00:33:27,020
talked to some people here one I just

819
00:33:33,460 --> 00:33:28,700
did an interview with with a woman who

820
00:33:35,340 --> 00:33:33,470
was injured she has autoimmune disease

821
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:35,350
which a lot of these people have

822
00:33:39,659 --> 00:33:37,840
and so I said I'll see what I can do

823
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:39,669
maybe we can get your DNA tested and

824
00:33:42,450 --> 00:33:41,440
they may have some sort of because

825
00:33:45,060 --> 00:33:42,460
they've dealt with a lot of these people

826
00:33:48,150 --> 00:33:45,070
they may have some sort of way to deal

827
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:48,160
with it it may be some sort of way to

828
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:51,130
cure it or whatever and that's where you

829
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:53,110
got to go that that these things are

830
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,320
happening for a reason and I think it'll

831
00:34:00,779 --> 00:33:58,240
move us a long way down the road instead

832
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:00,789
of just anecdotal stories you have

833
00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:02,650
something you can actually duplicate and

834
00:34:10,290 --> 00:34:05,950
measure in terms of the evidence in

835
00:34:13,889 --> 00:34:10,300
terms of what we're looking at to verify

836
00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:13,899
it the witnesses that I hear they have

837
00:34:18,510 --> 00:34:16,030
there's apparently over a hundred people

838
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:18,520
in this program now a lot of them are

839
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:21,129
black ops people and kit Green who was

840
00:34:25,379 --> 00:34:24,159
running it at he talked to a woman by

841
00:34:27,419 --> 00:34:25,389
the name of Annie Jacobson who was a

842
00:34:29,790 --> 00:34:27,429
former editor for the Los Angeles Times

843
00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:29,800
who wrote a book called phenomena and

844
00:34:34,580 --> 00:34:32,350
the phenomena book was looking at remote

845
00:34:36,780 --> 00:34:34,590
viewing inside the CIC and she's a

846
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:36,790
nominated for a Pulitzer Prize very

847
00:34:42,359 --> 00:34:39,609
major investigative reporter when they

848
00:34:44,820 --> 00:34:42,369
talked to her his theory was that a lot

849
00:34:46,770 --> 00:34:44,830
of these injury cases are people who are

850
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:46,780
black ops who have been dealing with

851
00:34:50,070 --> 00:34:48,609
this technologies because the UFO is

852
00:34:52,619 --> 00:34:50,080
going to work on some sort of technology

853
00:34:55,590 --> 00:34:52,629
and that they may have been hit by a

854
00:34:57,660 --> 00:34:55,600
beam or some sort of mistake in the in

855
00:35:01,620 --> 00:34:57,670
the black black world technology that

856
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:01,630
they're using but the the marker thing

857
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:03,850
would be different it would be not so

858
00:35:08,849 --> 00:35:06,880
much the injury thing it would be the

859
00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:08,859
marker would be there from birth or

860
00:35:12,930 --> 00:35:10,900
wherever it is I've heard one story that

861
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:12,940
was from birth to have this marker so

862
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:18,609
the the the injury stuff may not mean

863
00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:20,920
that you're actually interacted with the

864
00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:22,720
beings although the question is if

865
00:35:25,650 --> 00:35:23,950
you're up close because one of the

866
00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:25,660
people that's in this study is a guy

867
00:35:29,130 --> 00:35:27,700
many of John Burroughs John Burroughs

868
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:29,140
was one of the people at Reynolds from

869
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:31,210
Forrest who when they went and this

870
00:35:34,890 --> 00:35:33,520
thing was sitting on the ground and John

871
00:35:36,510 --> 00:35:34,900
Burroughs and Penniston went up and

872
00:35:38,190 --> 00:35:36,520
Penniston put his hand on the craft and

873
00:35:40,770 --> 00:35:38,200
had these symbols and he could feel the

874
00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:40,780
symbols and John Burroughs had a heart

875
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:43,119
problem see I had this shredded sort of

876
00:35:46,590 --> 00:35:45,310
heart valve and the doctors couldn't

877
00:35:48,049 --> 00:35:46,600
figure it was wrong with him so he was

878
00:35:50,420 --> 00:35:48,059
badly injured it was

879
00:35:52,849 --> 00:35:50,430
actually kit green who actually went to

880
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:52,859
his doctor and said he was exposed to a

881
00:35:58,279 --> 00:35:55,650
high magnetic field so that was the idea

882
00:36:01,910 --> 00:35:58,289
that sometimes if you get too close to a

883
00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:01,920
craft you will experience this so you'll

884
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:03,839
have the experiences who are in close to

885
00:36:08,539 --> 00:36:06,209
the craft or my friend he has this sort

886
00:36:10,759 --> 00:36:08,549
of autoimmune disease and what he told

887
00:36:12,319 --> 00:36:10,769
me he was told it was from was from

888
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:12,329
touching the craft when it was powered

889
00:36:15,859 --> 00:36:13,890
up so you're not allowed to touch the

890
00:36:17,870 --> 00:36:15,869
craft when it's powered up and that's

891
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:17,880
where he claimed he got it from so you

892
00:36:22,459 --> 00:36:20,160
can have the injury ones that are caused

893
00:36:24,589 --> 00:36:22,469
by being too close to the craft or by

894
00:36:27,140 --> 00:36:24,599
the back engineered technologies that

895
00:36:29,479 --> 00:36:27,150
the black ops is using that injures

896
00:36:31,339 --> 00:36:29,489
people but then you're also going to

897
00:36:34,579 --> 00:36:31,349
have the other group of experiences who

898
00:36:37,699 --> 00:36:34,589
have the DNA marker who have interacted

899
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:37,709
with the beings and what I would say

900
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:39,359
that when you interact with the beings

901
00:36:43,219 --> 00:36:41,609
it's going to be a lot less physical

902
00:36:45,049 --> 00:36:43,229
it's gonna be they're gonna take you out

903
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:45,059
of your body like an ear like a

904
00:36:49,009 --> 00:36:46,380
near-death experience or not a body

905
00:36:51,799 --> 00:36:49,019
experience and it's it's it becomes a

906
00:36:53,179 --> 00:36:51,809
lot less physical in terms of you know

907
00:36:54,949 --> 00:36:53,189
you're going through walls you're doing

908
00:36:57,709 --> 00:36:54,959
all those kind of stuff so that would be

909
00:36:59,299 --> 00:36:57,719
the distinction that right now because

910
00:37:01,699 --> 00:36:59,309
we haven't seen the data that they have

911
00:37:03,469 --> 00:37:01,709
and what they told me and you know we

912
00:37:05,479 --> 00:37:03,479
sort of to back off and I can understand

913
00:37:08,269 --> 00:37:05,489
what they're saying is that we gotta get

914
00:37:10,249 --> 00:37:08,279
these papers out if we sort of expose

915
00:37:13,609 --> 00:37:10,259
all this stuff now we're gonna look like

916
00:37:14,809 --> 00:37:13,619
a bunch of crazy people and you people

917
00:37:17,269 --> 00:37:14,819
who realize that when you go to a

918
00:37:18,529 --> 00:37:17,279
peer-reviewed journal these people going

919
00:37:20,089 --> 00:37:18,539
to be very very skeptical these are

920
00:37:22,130 --> 00:37:20,099
gonna be people who really don't believe

921
00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:22,140
in UFOs they think this is all total

922
00:37:26,989 --> 00:37:24,150
nuts so you have to have pretty strong

923
00:37:29,299 --> 00:37:26,999
evidence and that's where they're saying

924
00:37:30,529 --> 00:37:29,309
let us get this peer-reviewed papers out

925
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:30,539
where they we can actually show that

926
00:37:33,709 --> 00:37:32,400
there's markers and stuff and then I

927
00:37:37,249 --> 00:37:33,719
guess to go to the next step as to

928
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:37,259
determining whether this is accidental

929
00:37:41,509 --> 00:37:39,839
injury whether it's interaction with the

930
00:37:44,449 --> 00:37:41,519
the beings I think once you get to the

931
00:37:46,279 --> 00:37:44,459
beings you'll have people who have these

932
00:37:49,849 --> 00:37:46,289
sort of injuries especially these

933
00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:49,859
inflammation type injuries but a lot of

934
00:37:53,419 --> 00:37:51,900
it is is a lot less physical than people

935
00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:53,429
think it is with these with these

936
00:37:56,210 --> 00:37:54,900
experiences which is the important thing

937
00:37:58,730 --> 00:37:56,220
about the portal is

938
00:38:00,320 --> 00:37:58,740
sort of shows that it's not quite as

939
00:38:02,540 --> 00:38:00,330
physical as you think it is it's it's

940
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:02,550
got these ideas that consciousness is

941
00:38:06,980 --> 00:38:04,890
primary that the whole world maybe a

942
00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:06,990
thought that you may be creating your

943
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,390
environment even getting down to the

944
00:38:13,730 --> 00:38:11,520
idea that maybe because you see a gray

945
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:13,740
you have a certain personality that if

946
00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:14,970
you're a very negative you'll see a

947
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:16,920
negative being if you're very positive

948
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:18,690
you can see a positive being and that

949
00:38:22,580 --> 00:38:21,090
you're manifesting you're helping almost

950
00:38:24,980 --> 00:38:22,590
like John wheeler the guy who won the

951
00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:24,990
Nobel Prize in 1960 you came up with the

952
00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:27,540
idea of wormholes and the black holes he

953
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:29,880
said it's a participatory universe where

954
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:32,400
you participate in what you see that

955
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,410
you're interacting with this thing so it

956
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:36,960
gets very very complex but the important

957
00:38:40,940 --> 00:38:38,910
part I think is that we actually are

958
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:40,950
gonna have some actual data that we have

959
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:44,730
names and and targets and you can

960
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:47,310
actually determine these people all have